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to try to cut a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. in ten days across h board-spends cuts take effect. >>> if president obama and congress fails to reach an agreement the price of milk could lead sharply. john blackstone reports. >> who wants milk? >> me. >> me. >> me. >> reporter: with four children the rasmussen family in california drinks about five gallons a week on milk. if congress doesn't pass the bill, i would cost him $106. >> they have to have their milk. we might have to cut elsewhere. >> reporter: back then the process was more laborious and farmers needed a higher subsidy to cover their costs. dan sumner says the new price of milk will with far above what it now costs dairy farmers to produce it. >> it really will be chaos. >> reporter: so we would go back to this old farm bill which would force the government to buy milk at an extremely high price. >> that's right. >> reporter: this could be a windfall for dairy farmers. >> here's the problem. they don't want chaos. it sounds good, everybody will double or about triple the price but nobody's going to pay for it. >
through the south, still ahead. >> the looming "fiscal cliff" forces president obama to cut his christmas vacation short. i'm erica ferrari in new york. i'll have that and more coming up in your cbsmoneywatch report. >>> and what's cool about your school? you can submit your nomination on our website, cbssf.com/coolschool. we may come and feature school right here on our show. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, [ boy 1 ] hey! that's the last crescent. oh, did you want it? yea we'll split it. [ female announcer ] made fresh, so light, buttery and flakey. that's half that's not half! guys, i have more! thanks mom [ female announcer ] pillsbury crescents. let the making begin [ female announcer ] holiday cookies are a big job. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster >>> welcome back! here's your cbs 5 snow report: basketball team is spending holiday season in hawai'i. much more traffic and weather coming up. >>> one local college basketball team is spending the holiday season in hawaii the university of san francisco taking on the east tennessee state on ch
to what they call crippling medicare cuts. the automatic fiscal cliff cuts will mean 2% reduction for medicare. on top of that, doctors face a 27% rate cut, because of a medicare formula that all sides say is broken. the sustainable growth rate formula, nicknamed the sgr, triggers doctor reimbursement cuts when health costs outpace economic growth. for nine years congress has passed doc fix funding to keep rates from being cut. this year it's being held hostage by the fiscal deadlock. without a fix, one physician group has calculated that most solo family doctors will see a $27,000 cut in terms of their revenues this year. a typical three-doctor practice will lose $80,000. the centers for medicare and medicaid notified doctors that they may not see a cut right away, because of a 14 to 29-day in terms of when they actually pay the bills after they are received. if congress reaches a deal by mid-month, they won't see a problem. the cms says they'll provide an update on january 11th. not knowing how much you're going to get paid for a couple of weeks as you're starting to see patient
before averting the so-called fiscal cliff before the new year. president obama has cut short his hawaiian holiday. he'll come back to washington tomorrow night. nbc's danielle leigh is live. >> reporter: richard, good morning. there. is still a hope that a deal can get done, but confidence in that bargain with real reform has all but disappeared. americans are already taking a good hard look at their wallets, as confidence the country will avoid the fiscal cliff diminishes. >> i don't think there's going to be a grand bargain before the end of the year. there is hope a deal will be cut. >> reporter: if congress doesn't extend expiring tax cuts in just days, middle income owners will owe uncle sam about $2,000 extra a year. retailers will cut back in automotive, apparel and entertainment. >> once people begin to pull back on that, the effect will be dramatic. >> reporter: the national retailers association said retailer its support 1 in 4 american jobs and if the downward turn intensifies. for those, the wait is excruciating. president obama visited troops in hawaii over christmas
a deal can be cut in time to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday the president was at work here in the white house, but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points and revenue figures to try to reach an agreement all sides can stomach. the baseline for the president, any bipartisan bill has to extend unemployment insurance that would affect some 2 million americans, and increase taxes for the highest income earners. negotiators can still work out exactly where that tax increase would hit and whether they would halt an increase in the estate tax. in case those discussions break down, the president has asked democratic leader harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. that's really a democratic proposal, and you can expect republicans to block it. rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, you should probably think of it it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure onto republicans just before the nation hits the hour of reckoning.
. >>> aloha means good-bye. president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a real beating. a twister blowing up transformers, leaving more than 25,000 customers without power. reports to damage to homes, a high school, and church. >> it came in behind the church right there, and then all green fluorescent lighting and popping transformers left and right. and we heard the crashing and everything and the power went out. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could, and i was just praying for my safety, and i knew the church was shaking. i just prayed that the church stayed put. >> here is the other half of this story, blizzard conditions blanketing much of the midwest and the northeast will ge
obama's cutting his hawaii vacation short, it turns out, to take on the fiscal cliff and crisis in washington. >>> also we're keeping an eye on new violence in syria. one of the regime's highest-ranking generals has actually switched sides. >>> plus, a newspaper actually lists the names and addresses of folks who hold gun permits. is that right or wrong? it's all "happening now." kelly: welcome, everyone. first, tracking a powerful winter storm moving across the one right now -- country right now, this hour, threatening travel plans for thousands of americans just trying to get home after the holidays. i'm kelly wright in for jon scott. jamie: i'm jamie colby, and patience is definitely going to pay this holiday day. the massive storm already blamed for at least three deaths down south, and it spawned more than 30 tornadoes, very unusual for this time of year, across four gulf states. take a look at. >> oh, my
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a deal can be cut in time to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points and revenue figures to try to reach an agreement all sides can stomach. the baseline for the president, any bipartisan bill would have to extend unemployment insurance that would affect some 2 million americans and increase taxes for the highest income earners. but negotiators can still work out exactly where that tax increase would hit and whether they would halt an increase in the estate tax. in case those discussions break down, the president asked harry reid to prepare a separate bill to put on the floor of the senate that would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. now, that's really a democratic proposal and you could expect republicans to block it, so, rather than thinking of that as a stop gap measure, probably think of it as a political measure to shift the responsibility for failure on to republicans just before the nation hits the hour of wreckening. alison? >> than
off the fiscal cliff, president obama is cutting his hawaiien family vacation short. flying back to washington tonight. unwhat kind of deal-making possibilities he will find when he gets back. house republican leaders held a conference call but no decision when to call members back nor is it clear what kind of deal, if any, they will have to vote on. a lot of moving pieces and a lot of digging for cnn's dana bash. i understand there were no decisions out of the call. do we have any sense what fellow republicans are telling speaker boehner? how likely are we going to see a vote before going over the cliff? >> it's up in the air. i'm told it is in part why house republicans didn't make a decision whether to bring the house back or when to do it. the ball is really in the senate's court, specifically with senate democrats. that changed big time since a couple of weeks ago. at this point what senate democrats are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left for hawaii which is a scale
the fiscal cliff, president obama is cutting his hawaii vacation short, flying back to washington, uncertain what kind of deal making possibilities he will find when we will come back. republican leaders made no decision about when to call their members back nor it is clear what kind of deal, if any, they will have to vote on. a lot of digging tonight for cnn's dana bash. i understand there were no decisions out of this call, but do we have any sense of what fellow. >> rob:s are telling speaker boehner? how likely are we to see a vote in time to avoid going of the cliff? >> it really is up in the air. i'm told in part that's why house. >> rob:s didn't make a decision to bring the house back or when to do it because the ball really is in the senate's court, specifically with senate democrats. that has changed big time since a few weeks ago. at this point what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left for hawaii which is a scaled-back bill focusing on tax cuts and on what he campaig
the "fiscal cliff"? it is still possible but experts say with every passing hour it becomes more difficult. >> well, we're now at the last minute. the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. >> reporter: congressional leaders left the white house after trying to negotiate an 11th hour deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff" of tax hikes and spending cuts that begin on january 1. the president emerged shortly after admitting no deal had been reached at least not yet. >> we had a constructive meeting today. senators reid and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over to the house and done in a timely fashion. >> reporter: the senate is in session today and is expected to return on sunday along with the house. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> reporter: but time is clearly running out for congress. st. mary's college polit
soon. but six days before the fiscal cliff, president obama cutting short his christmas vacation on the off chance he and congress might be able to cut some kind of deal. he left. but brianna keilar is still there in honolulu. when's the president leaving and why does he really expect to avoid the cliff? >> reporter: i will be leaving as well when the president leaves, don. he is expected. he will be leaving tonight. that's local time. so he'll be traveling overnight and arriving back in the d.c. area late thursday morning. as you know, the senate reconvenes tomorrow. so he'll be going back as that is happening. we heard from him last week as he was heading out to hawaii. he said, see you next week. we had a thought that this was probably going to happen. he is officially now going back. he said last week, don, that he is still optimistic that something can get done. the other issue here, though, is you can imagine, how bad it would look if he go over the cliff and there's a lot of work to make sure that doesn't happen. he's here in hawaii on vacation. that would look terrible fo
sales was uncertainty about the fiscal cliff, tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect next year. if lawmakers don't reach a deal to avoid it consumers could see higher taxes eating into their paychecks. even online sales suffered compared to past years of double-digit growth this year online holiday sales rose only about 8% compared to nearly 16% last year. lack of consumer confidence means this shopping season could be the weakest since the recession in 2008 when sales actually shrank. >> consumers need to have more confidence. right now it's more of an uncertain way for the first half of 2013 so i think everyone has thought going into the year. >> for businesses, the holiday shopping season officially ends december 31st, and retailers are hoping to salvage some profits by offering deep discounts until then. the president of the national retail federation is still optimistic. he estimates holiday sales growth will be about 3.5% to 4% this year. rebecca and jeff? >> thanks elaine. it's interesting, macy's and target report next week so we're going to hea
is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >>> next, scandal. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. >>> i'm don lemon with a look at your headlines. hillary clinton will spend new year's eve in a new york city hospital with a blood clot. doctors admitted the secretary of state sunday after a medical exam. the clot is believed to be related to the concussion
of the program. he was introducing a bill to soften the landing if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. the calm act.thit it would allow omb to substitute sequester cuts. more than $100 billion in budget cuts across the board. that is something the new congress will have to deal with. less than 17 hours before the deadline. ellen is joining us from washington, d.c. caller: good morning. i did nothing speaker boehner wanted to cut a deal with the democrats anyway. all this stuff is around president bush. it's not all on obama. host: ok. thank you for the call. harry reid said this yesterday. [video clip] >> the republicans have taken the benefit cuts off the table. there is still significant distance between the two sides but negotiations continue. there is still time left to reach an agreement. host: those negotiations moved into the evening. the house coming back at 9:00 p.m. eastern for morning business. votes would happen sometime after 10:00 a.m. front-page of "the new york times." let me read a few sentences. host: that is the front page of "the new york times." good morning from
than 24 ours until so-caaled "fiscal cliff"... e - &pfierce faceeoff... over a set of spending cuts and tax hikes. hikes.econommsts fear the combination of the two... &pif nothing is resolved by midnighh tonight... tax rates for all ameriians will increase. democrats say it means about 2-thousand dollars for the average middle-class faaily. 1:09 "the president is doing nothing about the aadiction that his administration has to spending. he'ssthe spenddr in chief." democrats want higher taxes on republicans want tax rates to d- stay where hey aree nd entitlemmet spending reeuutions. taxes seem to be the biggest obstacle to a compromise. but others just want to see governmenn ""ne mom said to me ii -grocer commuting back and forthhto work in gas forrup to three years, i mean that's a lot of money." the senateeis scheduled to reconvene at 11 o'clock this morning. 3even if lawmakers don't come to angreement tonight... you probabllywon't see a drastic phange in your next aycheck. that's because bbsineeses likely used 20-12 withholding rates... uncertaii about hat would happpn. happen
to strike a deal is tomorrow.... or, the u-s plunges off the so- called fiscal cliff and possibly into an economic free fall. facing a dreaded combination of spending cuts and tax hikes... president obama made an appearance, on n-b-c's meet the press. "regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do not go up that would hurt our economy badly." democrats want to keep the bush-era tax cuts for everyone, except the wealthiest americans. just how wealthy?..is a major sticking point... with negotiations now focused on an income threshold around 400-to-500 thousand dollars. *republicans argue the problem isn't tax revenue...but spending. they want reforms to entitlements. but a proposal to change the way social security benefits are measured against inflation was pulled from the table. vice president joe biden -- talked to minority leader mitch mcconnell several times today...in an effort to break the stalemate. hopefully, the discussions between the vice president and senator mcconnell will get us back on track, hopef
are 10 hours before we reached the so-called fiscal cliff. that government-imposed deadline for tax cuts, also sequestration. they will go into effect for 2013 unless a compromise is reached. the president says we are close, but there is no final deal. some of our twitter comments -- richard is joining us from ohio. republican line. caller: thank you. i do not understand what is going on with the unemployment rate and everything else. i have been looking for work for nine months now. the only thing around here is dishwasher, stuff like that. my wife is disabled. there is no money in the household. and yet, they keep wanting to go up and up and up. i have no idea what to do to support my family. i know there are millions of americans out there, people in worse shape than i am. i have no idea where to go next. host: richard, have you talk to your members of congress? caller: >> no, i have not. host: do you think any agreement lawmakers make today will make a difference? caller: honestly, i do not think it will make much of the difference. i thought we was doing good. i got injured on my jo
the players in this fiscal cliff game. let's look at what president obama and speaker boehner want. president obama wants higher taxes on the wealthy, stimulus spending, limited cuts to entitlements, and speaker boehner wants limited tax increases and keep his job. bob, which -- where do we go from here if a deal isn't hashed out in the next few hours? >> not necessarily in that order. i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are you going to be doing new year's eve," i think that we'll be finding that these people are still hard at it and maybe calling congress into session tomorrow night which is a really rotten way to end the year. >> jared, explain for our vie
- called fiscal cliff. what we also have facing us starting tomorrow are automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to go into effect. keep in mind that some of the spending cuts that congress has said will automatically go into effect have an impact on our defense department but they also have an impact on things like head start. some programs that are scheduled to be cut and we're using an ax instead of a scalpel. they may not always be the smartest cuts. that is a piece of business that still has to be taking care of. i want to make clear that any agreement that we have to deal with these automatic spending cuts that are being threatened for next month, polls also have to be balanced. our principal has always been to do things in a balanced responsible way. that means revenue has to be part of the equation. the same is true for any future deficit agreement. obviously we're going to have to do more to reduce our debt and deficit. i'm willing to do more. it is going to have to be balanced. it has to be a balanced and responsible way. i'm willing to reduce our government's medic
is cutting short his vacation to hawaii. he is returning to deal with economic matters, the fiscal cliff. if his death has been quietly talking with senate democrats are the christmas holiday to come up with a planned to avert or prevent the cliff. in the meantime, the senate does plan a session tomorrow. perhaps we will hear more about an agreement before the new year's deadline. the house is due tomorrow as well. we do not have an agenda and there. with the fiscal cliffhanging out there heading into the year 2013, do you have optimism or pessimism heading into the new ? you can also send in your comment via twitter, a post a comment on facebook, or write us an e-mail. the theme of optimism or lack of it is prevalent in the papers. wednesday with congress and the president heading back to washington. here is a headline on "usa today." in the wall street journal -- if the in "the washington post." we welcome your phone calls. we will get to them in a moment. we did find another piece at politico. there you have it in the papers this morning about people being optimistic or pessimistic ab
to be on popularity over the next few weeks if we go over the fiscal cliff and he ends up making cuts and so forth. what is going to happen is ultimately if this is is a success or a failure, it's his legacy that's going to tell the story that doesn't come down for republican's back against the walls this mess that krauthammer pointed out. what the republicans are doing mess in the house putting up this plan b and may get less than plan b they couldn't get a vote on plan b. senator corker thinks this whole thing he mentioned last night on greta is really too much spending keeping the spending and getting the tax increases, listen. >> it's a shame in this nation where every developed country in the world knows that our greatest threat is our fiscal solvency that you would have to have leverage points. you would think people would sit down and solve the problem because we know it is our greatest threat. that's not the case here. we have a president who has not laid out a plan. he is obviously a spendaholic. time quickly running out for a deal washington will be working all weekend in hopes of reachi
number one is avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> unless the president obama and congress can reach a deal by the new year, tax increases and spending cuts will automatically take effect. >> and the clock is ticking. >>> of course, when we look back at this year, president obama's re-election was one of the biggest political stories of the year. all others, you could say, they pealed in comparison. >> with the first of our year-enders, here's abc's karen travers. >> reporter: to win a second term, president obama had to overcome a well funded opponent, a struggling economy, and voters' doubts that he had the right agenda to turn the nation around. [ chanting ] >> all: four more years! >> reporter: and after a roller coaster season, he got them. mitt romney may have started off at the frontrunner, but to win the republican nomination, he had to fend off some feisty challengers. >> he's the worst republican in the country to put up against barack obama. >> the odds are very high i'm going to be the nominee. >> reporter: and overcome some self-inflicted wounds. >> i like being able to fire pe
to reach a fiscal cliff deal. the senate and house are expected to reconvene tomorrow. we're six days away from possible across the board tax increases and spending cuts. >>> former president george h.w. bush is still in a houston hospital. his wife, barbara, and other relatives at his side. the 88-year-old has been in the hospital for more than a month with a lingering cough and recently had a low grade fever. doctors remain cautiously optimistic about a full recovery. >>> a claim of facebook privacy breach within the zuckerberg family. his sister says a family photo was reposted by another person on twitter. randy zuckerberg called the woman out. the woman apologized said it was public because it was in her facebook newsfeed. >>> in china the longest high speed railway opens, connects beijing with guangzhou, 1,500 in eight hours, but tickets start at $138, and they're a little pricey for some people and many travelers say it's cheaper and faster to fly. >>> a report just out this morning shows home prices up in october, the biggest annual gain in more than two years. alison kosik joins u
in washington today after a short break with just days before the onset of the so-called fiscal cliff. obama and republican leaders remain at a crossroads on reaching a budget deal before the combination of spending cuts and tax hikes kicks in with the new year. on wednesday, treasury secretary timothy geithner told congress the u.s. will reach its federal borrowing limit on new year's eve, threatening the same default that was narrowly avoided last year. in a letter to lawmakers, geithner vowed to take extraordinary measures to avoid a new default but said any remedies would only be short- term. the u.s. has acknowledged for the first time a carried out a september drone strike that killed 11 people in yemen. the victims were packed into a truck on a desert road in a town of radda when they're struck by a missile. the washington post reports the yemeni government tried to hide u.s. responsibility for the attack by taking credit for carrying it out. the yemeni government also initially claimed only militants were killed in the strike, or forced to withdraw that claim after mourners tried to
to washington d.c. on thursday. the president is returning to the white house to work on its fiscal cliff deal before the year inns. without an agreement, automatic tax increase is for everyone and deep spending cuts will be triggered in the new year. the >> the death toll has risen to six from winter storms in the nation's midsection. if this is video automobile, alabama. an enormous storm system that brought snow and sleet to the nation's midsection and tournedos to the deep south is now moving its way toward the northeast. >> we are still tracking pretty good storm sales as you can see here is a live look as storm tracker 4. san for cisco is starting to dry out. we are still seeing pretty good rain coming out towards ever bring and 101. \ evergreen and 101. hayward and union city are also looking at moderate rain showers that are coming through. richmond and certain parts oakland are also looking at light rain. all the rain will stick a round and we will have scattered showers for the rest of the day. showers will decrease by the afternoon and you should grab your unreligious in case you ar
they must know, " a major setback. >> as well marked makers or on avoiding the fiscal cliff. talks get " a major setback over social security benefits. both sides agree to push for. >> i wonder want to know i want to get this done. i need a dance partner. >> vice president joe biden is apparently that person for which mcconnell. >> the two are taking over talks. if nothing is resolved by midnight tonight. tax breaks for all americans will increase. democrats say it will mean about $2,000 for the average middle class family. >> a michigan woman said to me that is a month worth of groceries. also gets up to three years transportation to and from work. >> democrats want taxes to increase for americans earning over to london $50,000. republicans want texas a the same period >> republicans want taxes to stay the same period >> i offered over a trillion dollars in additional spending cuts so that we would have $2 of spending cuts for every $1 of increased revenue. >> the senate reconvenes at 11:00 a.m. so as americans celebrate the beginning of 2013 they may wake up wishing it was 2012 when
to admit, it's the fiscal cliff, the debt clock stuff. i don't blame them. >> reporter: yeah. people think the general public is oblivious and not paying attention. they want to blow off the fact people are bored about hearing about the fiscal cliff but the reality is that 98% of americans will be affected and will see taxes go up if we go over the cliff at the end of the year. this consumer confidence number is an indication of what economist have been warning if we go over the cliff and enter into a new recession in 2013. that consumer confidence number down 6 points to just over 65. you know as well as i do this is a big change in the overall trend we had been seeing of improving consumer confidence. so as we near the fiscal cliff and near the end of the year, folks are buckling up, didn't spend as much as christmastime and we depend on the spending for economic growth. it's the engine of economic growth and all fingers point to another recession. >> eric: yesterday we got indication the retail sales for christmas were bad. today we get consumer sales. what's next? >> well basically we'
up with a small, kick-the-can down the road bill, that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. how irresponsible is that? >> reporter: and does washington still, the stock market burns. dropping for a sixth-straight day under this uncertainty. americans are burning up, too. >> this is america. they should be working for the american people. >> can't believe we got this close. >> get in a room and don't come out of the room until you've got this thing taken care of. >> reporter: what the senate leaders hope to do is put together this deal, bring it to the senate tomorrow. then, the house comes back in session tomorrow night. they can vote on any deal passed by the senate. but bianna, no one is holding their breath here in washington. >> no one is, indeed. >>> for more on the big white house meeting, we want to bring in john avlon, political columnist at "the daily beast." a busy man covering all of this. how do you see this playing out? >> we're three days out. nothing focuses than the prospect of being hanged. today, bianna, is the key day. saturday, tod
to remember nancy pelosi and the democrats that voted no voted to go over the fiscal cliff. they have been trying to kill all the bush tax cuts. even mr. obama since 2005 when he was running as a senator. i don't know what your thoughts are about that. i would like to hear about the democrats voted to push us off the fiscal cliff. host: how you pick political heroes? caller: this is a republic and want to see going back to what it was. people are getting knocked off of unemployment in states because their rates went down. we go off this cliff, anybody on extended unemployment will not get a check in january. host: this is gary who chooses ben bernanke. beverly is next from vermont. caller: hello/ ? my choice is the teachers of america. i cannot believe that people did not speak up more for the teachers. they do they hurled job practically every day. host: why are they political heroes? caller: who do you think is going to run the country in the future? this is something that people do not understand. our future is our children. nobody seems to care. my choice is the teachers in america. th
republicans are fighting to have a balanced point of view for the fiscal cliff. if the president wants to spend $one. 6 trillion, he should cut the spending by that. it should be 400,000 jobs. people who give us jobs are the people that earn $400,000 and can afford to have a family and pay for employees. i am very grateful for your mentioning the fact he went on 310 campaigns. i was wondering what he was doing when he was not in the office leading. now i understand he was out campaigning. when he does campaign, have you been able to figure out how much he has cost the american taxpayer for the trips he takes? in hawaii, they mentioned he is lazy because he is from hawaii. i am wondering if he spends all his time campaigning. host: it sounds like he might spend time there because it is warmer than washington, d.c. caller: he does not work that much. when he was in chicago in the senate, in the illinois senate, he did not work that hard. he was only marked present. i did not believe that. now i see the way he operates. he does not seem to be doing his job. that is why he spent $6 trillio
cleverly brought you back to the fiscal cliff debate because i want to ask you about this. if you look at the expiration of the bush tax cuts, something else that would go way in 11 and a half hours, that's one-and-a-half percent of gdp. that is a big chunk of this nation's economy that goes away in spending power. i know you and i disagree, but we agree here. some of these tax cuts need to stay in place. >> without question, without question. there is certainly a healthy debate to be had about at what level you maintain the tax cuts. so close to seeing all those tax cuts go away. a completely ridiculous congress inflicted wound on the economy that is very difficult to square with reality. certainly i understand that retroactively they can do a lot to restore a lot of the damaged, but we are so close to the purposes -- press the does, it makes no sense. cheryl: last and final question. i know this is tough to answer, but we have had some really good things happen. the recovery, calling it a recovery, the fed that has been more than generous and throwing money into the system. kendis ec
now. what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not everyone wants to see a secretary hagel. why so
and democrats, we understand, are talking about right now. what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not everyone w
known as the fiscal cliff must be fixed within the next five days. thank you, brian, for accepting this challenge. i'm here to help you in any way i can. while there are other talented leaders in hawaii who stepped forward and who would also have been excellent appointees, i know that my colleagues will join me in supporting senator bryan schatz for the good of hawaii. throughout my 36-year career in congress, the hawaii delegation has always been unified. we have always put hawaii first before our individual ambition. we must continue that. hawaii comes first. i have followed brian schatz's career for many years. he was an active member of the hawaii statehouse of representatives for eight years before becoming c.e.o. of helping hands hawaii, a nonprofit organization that provides human services in the islands. as lieutenant governor, he has been a big part of the community. he has been an outspoken supporter of our troops and veterans and defender of our environment. senator schatz will be a strong, progressive voice for hawaii in the united states senate. he will represent freed
. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deductions and loopholes that they can use to buy down rates. so i think the odds are, after january 1 we will get a deal and it will be much more favorable deal to the republican party because we'll have the leverage and president obama won't. heather: simon, basically what mark's laid out there would be more of a bunge jump over the cliff instead after nosedive, what do you think about the possibility, good thing or bad? >> i think it is going to happen whether it is good or bad. hopefully in the first week to 10 days of the new
, the fiscal cliff is one day closering and much of the talk in congress focused who's to blame for a lack of a deal. there are nine days off to head off mandatory tax cuts and tax hikes. nancy cordes is in honolulu where the president is having his christmas vacation. and nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, rebecca. it's almost as if the president and congressional leaders have called a sort of time-out when it comes to the fiscal cliff. there are no major discussions going on right now about what to do now that talks between the president and the speaker have appeared to have stalled. they were both here yesterday for the funeral of daniel inu way and & we're told they didn't know what to do next. the president urged leaders to craft a sort of scaled down plan that simply extends the bush tax rates for the middle class and extends long-term unemployment benefits for another year. but jeff and rebecca, it's really unclear whether even a package like that could pass both houses of congress, and so the president is going to be cutting his vacation here short. he's heading
. >> the true heroes:. >>> well on this christmas eve, the fiscal cliff is one day closer. much of the talk in congress on sunday focused on who's to blame for the lack of a deal. there are eight days left for lawmakers to head off mandatory budget cuts and tax hikes, and nancy cordes is in honolulu where president obama is having his christmas vacation. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, rebecca. it's almost as if the president and congressional leaders have called a sort of time-out when it comes to the fiscal cliff. there are no major discussions going on right now about what to do now that talks between the president and the speaker appear to have stalled. in fact, the president and senate majority leader harry reid were both here in honolulu yesterday for the funeral of hawaii senator daniel inouye. we're told they didn't really discuss what to do next. before he left washington the president urged leaders to craft a sort of scaled down plan that simply extends the bush tax rates for the middle class and extends long-term unemployment benefits
to us about the fiscal cliff. caller: i am kind of concerned about it. one party makes a recommendation and never followed through. we don't get very much cutting in these negotiations through the years. in 1990 the democrats said that they would do spending cuts, but they did not. everytime i see a young child, 5, 6, 7 years old or younger, i pat them on the head and tell them i am sorry the countries in this mess, they're going to pay for it, because we have too many greedy people who came up through the 1960's and the only thing they are concerned about is . is we're in for a road through the next few years. host: thank you for your views. from accounting today, this article appeared a couple days ago. and within the paper, there was the schart -- venisa in dallas, tx, a business owner. caller: its vanessa. host: hi. if you saw the spelling on my screen, you would pronounced it that way, too. caller: there is no fiscal cliff. nobody said what the actual fiscal cliff is. to try topoinloy confuse the american people. nobody has ever told us what the fiscal cliff means. it does not mean
-called fiscal cliff is a verted they will reimburse workers. they are advicing workers to watch their deductions. >>> not only could the new year bring higher taxes and spending cuts,y gross which bill could also skyrocket. the so-called dairy cliff. why milk prices could double. >>> and why lawmakers trying to work out a deal they are dealing a big snowstorm on the east coast. want to give you a live look at the snow falling in front of the united states capitol. you can see it's a little bit hazy. washington is expecting one to two -- one to three inches of snow rather. that is likely to mix with rain and farther north boston could see up to six inches of snow thisw. >> gay couples are now allowed to marry in the state of maine. this is video of the first couple to wednesday in portland maine. they couldn't wait to tie the knot. they exchanged views just after midnight. >> we finally feel equal and happy to live in maine. >> it's official now. after nine years it's all good. >> voters in maine approved in nova long with voters in washington state as well as maryland. gay marriage ceremonie
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